CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 316

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Mr. Forrest.

2. What exactly do you mean

how long do you mean by all the time' ?

A. I sat there for over an hour and the clerk said it was not ready.

waited and waited and then when I kicked he produced, from a bundle which had been at his desk all the time, these permits.

I`

Q. What do you mean by saying it apparently was completed all the time? All

what time, a matter of weeks, months, days or hours?

A. Hours.

Q. It was ready for hours?

A. Yes, because when I went in the morning Mr. Chen must have given

instructions that the matter was urgent. When I called in the afternoon, after I had protested at being kept waiting for over an hour the book

was produced on my insistence.

Q.

Have you any real reason to think that the permit was written, signed

or embossed that day?

A. Absolutely.

Q.

A.

What is your reason?

Because when I called in the morning after being refused by the general agent (who told me that I could not get it before 7 days) I was told

to call back in the afternoon:

been done between those times.

Chairman:

naturally I went back and it must have

Between your morning visit and your afternoon visit?

A. Yes.

Q. Mr. Forrest.

A.

Is that not inconsistent with your statement that it had been completed

all the time?

It means between my conversation and my second visit there. It was ready all the time within the hour I saw there waiting for it.

Q. What reason have you for saying that?

A.

It was simply lying there with all the others.

In other words you are guessing that?

Chairman.

Mr. da Rocha says there was a bundle of permits there. He waited for an

hour and he saw an officer take his permits from that bundle which had

been there all during the hour he was waiting.

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